The annual winter Forum-Balls up thread (2012 edition)

Fandango Widewheels wrote:I'll be in Leeds from about 5:30. The CMD is off shopping so I can come out about 6

Fandango Widewheels wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Jonny Boy wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

T.B wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Broadhead wrote:Rebel Pin Up hairdressers

Is that what Gary's place is called?

Tell me it isn't.

I'm detecting a theme that you are a bit worried about the north getting fancy airs

I am. Well spotted.

In what way?

I always think (for me) the defining thing Leeds does better than anywhere else is ignore trends. That is what Leeds does. Did.

Now I think the students are more mixed with locals which is a real shame. We used to have the students nicely boxed off living in terror haha.

I dunno I could always rely on Leeds not to have Cocoon, Dc10, Hot Creations etc etc . Everywhere would be at it but not Leeds. This may be old news to some of you but to me it all seems to have happened really quickly. A real about-turn of quality.

You'd get people performing in Leeds and they would nearly always do extra well and also be blown away by our crowds. Cos it was different.

But once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!) and to be brutally honest since Basics lost it's dominance it's not the town I remember. It's like a lot of other towns. I hate that. Because I love Leeds. The thing I loved most of all was it's fuck-off-ness.

I could be dead wrong. It just seems to be importing everything when in the past it used to make it's own.

Don't get the hump again Joe I'm not talking about you it's a very general feeling I've been getting for about 4 or 5 years now.

Well said that man. You can say the same for most of the North. We're losing our identity.

I blame the internet.

Broadhead wrote:

Fandango Widewheels wrote:I'll be in Leeds from about 5:30. The CMD is off shopping so I can come out about 6

I can just see you, slipping the CMD £100....."you go get yourself something nice love"......and rushing off for a pint. The doting husband

Sherrers wrote:

Bishop wrote:

Broadhead wrote:

Bishop wrote:

Broadhead wrote:

Bishop wrote:I have word that Mundia is coming to meet us for a drink as well. So we need to sort times out, GOD DAMN IT.

Do you even know when you're getting to town yet? Or where you are staying?

Ah, good point. Will be right back. Dont arrange anything without me.

*private messages everyone except Bish*

Give up now.

I can arrive any time after 2.00 into leeds on friday and I am staying at the Park Plaza.

Boom, sorted.

Thats how you organise Broadswede.

I thought I was picking you up? you massive dunlop.

Sherrers wrote:

Jonny Boy wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

T.B wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Broadhead wrote:Rebel Pin Up hairdressers

Is that what Gary's place is called?

Tell me it isn't.

I'm detecting a theme that you are a bit worried about the north getting fancy airs

I am. Well spotted.

In what way?

I always think (for me) the defining thing Leeds does better than anywhere else is ignore trends. That is what Leeds does. Did.

Now I think the students are more mixed with locals which is a real shame. We used to have the students nicely boxed off living in terror haha.

I dunno I could always rely on Leeds not to have Cocoon, Dc10, Hot Creations etc etc . Everywhere would be at it but not Leeds. This may be old news to some of you but to me it all seems to have happened really quickly. A real about-turn of quality.

You'd get people performing in Leeds and they would nearly always do extra well and also be blown away by our crowds. Cos it was different.

But once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!) and to be brutally honest since Basics lost it's dominance it's not the town I remember. It's like a lot of other towns. I hate that. Because I love Leeds. The thing I loved most of all was it's fuck-off-ness.

I could be dead wrong. It just seems to be importing everything when in the past it used to make it's own.

Don't get the hump again Joe I'm not talking about you it's a very general feeling I've been getting for about 4 or 5 years now.

Joe wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Jonny Boy wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

T.B wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Broadhead wrote:Rebel Pin Up hairdressers

Is that what Gary's place is called?

Tell me it isn't.

I'm detecting a theme that you are a bit worried about the north getting fancy airs

I am. Well spotted.

In what way?

I always think (for me) the defining thing Leeds does better than anywhere else is ignore trends. That is what Leeds does. Did.

Now I think the students are more mixed with locals which is a real shame. We used to have the students nicely boxed off living in terror haha.

I dunno I could always rely on Leeds not to have Cocoon, Dc10, Hot Creations etc etc . Everywhere would be at it but not Leeds. This may be old news to some of you but to me it all seems to have happened really quickly. A real about-turn of quality.

You'd get people performing in Leeds and they would nearly always do extra well and also be blown away by our crowds. Cos it was different.

But once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!) and to be brutally honest since Basics lost it's dominance it's not the town I remember. It's like a lot of other towns. I hate that. Because I love Leeds. The thing I loved most of all was it's fuck-off-ness.

I could be dead wrong. It just seems to be importing everything when in the past it used to make it's own.

Don't get the hump again Joe I'm not talking about you it's a very general feeling I've been getting for about 4 or 5 years now.

No I agree Tim. The truth is its been like that for a while now.

My theory is most of 'the old guard' as it were have finally grown up and don't go out as much anymore so there isn't enough people to sustain a night where you can put on interesting, original line ups, and so whats happening is promoters are not taking risks and putting on nights that guarantee bums on seats.

Any night that does try and put on something a bit more interesting only pulls something like 150-200 punters, which is a real shame.

5 or 6 years ago, most students were either into funky house or were indie kids but now 90% of them are all into Hot Creations, Soul Clap, Visonquest, Crosstown Rebels etc. Now some might argue that's a good thing that more young 'uns are getting into underground house or whatever, but as you say Tim its wiped out that 'us & them' scenario which made Leeds unique and the whole scene had become saturated, stale and fucking boring

Son of Nod wrote:

Joe wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Jonny Boy wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

T.B wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Broadhead wrote:Rebel Pin Up hairdressers

Is that what Gary's place is called?

Tell me it isn't.

I'm detecting a theme that you are a bit worried about the north getting fancy airs

I am. Well spotted.

In what way?

I always think (for me) the defining thing Leeds does better than anywhere else is ignore trends. That is what Leeds does. Did.

Now I think the students are more mixed with locals which is a real shame. We used to have the students nicely boxed off living in terror haha.

I dunno I could always rely on Leeds not to have Cocoon, Dc10, Hot Creations etc etc . Everywhere would be at it but not Leeds. This may be old news to some of you but to me it all seems to have happened really quickly. A real about-turn of quality.

You'd get people performing in Leeds and they would nearly always do extra well and also be blown away by our crowds. Cos it was different.

But once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!) and to be brutally honest since Basics lost it's dominance it's not the town I remember. It's like a lot of other towns. I hate that. Because I love Leeds. The thing I loved most of all was it's fuck-off-ness.

I could be dead wrong. It just seems to be importing everything when in the past it used to make it's own.

Don't get the hump again Joe I'm not talking about you it's a very general feeling I've been getting for about 4 or 5 years now.

No I agree Tim. The truth is its been like that for a while now.

My theory is most of 'the old guard' as it were have finally grown up and don't go out as much anymore so there isn't enough people to sustain a night where you can put on interesting, original line ups, and so whats happening is promoters are not taking risks and putting on nights that guarantee bums on seats.

Any night that does try and put on something a bit more interesting only pulls something like 150-200 punters, which is a real shame.

5 or 6 years ago, most students were either into funky house or were indie kids but now 90% of them are all into Hot Creations, Soul Clap, Visonquest, Crosstown Rebels etc. Now some might argue that's a good thing that more young 'uns are getting into underground house or whatever, but as you say Tim its wiped out that 'us & them' scenario which made Leeds unique and the whole scene had become saturated, stale and fucking boring

Maybe this is one reason I don't go out anywhere now.

Bishop wrote:

Son of Nod wrote:

Joe wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Jonny Boy wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

T.B wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Broadhead wrote:Rebel Pin Up hairdressers

Is that what Gary's place is called?

Tell me it isn't.

I'm detecting a theme that you are a bit worried about the north getting fancy airs

I am. Well spotted.

In what way?

I always think (for me) the defining thing Leeds does better than anywhere else is ignore trends. That is what Leeds does. Did.

Now I think the students are more mixed with locals which is a real shame. We used to have the students nicely boxed off living in terror haha.

I dunno I could always rely on Leeds not to have Cocoon, Dc10, Hot Creations etc etc . Everywhere would be at it but not Leeds. This may be old news to some of you but to me it all seems to have happened really quickly. A real about-turn of quality.

You'd get people performing in Leeds and they would nearly always do extra well and also be blown away by our crowds. Cos it was different.

But once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!) and to be brutally honest since Basics lost it's dominance it's not the town I remember. It's like a lot of other towns. I hate that. Because I love Leeds. The thing I loved most of all was it's fuck-off-ness.

I could be dead wrong. It just seems to be importing everything when in the past it used to make it's own.

Don't get the hump again Joe I'm not talking about you it's a very general feeling I've been getting for about 4 or 5 years now.

No I agree Tim. The truth is its been like that for a while now.

My theory is most of 'the old guard' as it were have finally grown up and don't go out as much anymore so there isn't enough people to sustain a night where you can put on interesting, original line ups, and so whats happening is promoters are not taking risks and putting on nights that guarantee bums on seats.

Any night that does try and put on something a bit more interesting only pulls something like 150-200 punters, which is a real shame.

5 or 6 years ago, most students were either into funky house or were indie kids but now 90% of them are all into Hot Creations, Soul Clap, Visonquest, Crosstown Rebels etc. Now some might argue that's a good thing that more young 'uns are getting into underground house or whatever, but as you say Tim its wiped out that 'us & them' scenario which made Leeds unique and the whole scene had become saturated, stale and fucking boring

Maybe this is one reason I don't go out anywhere now.

Well said Joe.

SON, the reason you dont go anywhere now is because you get lost.

Broadhead wrote:

Bishop wrote:

Son of Nod wrote:

Joe wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Jonny Boy wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

T.B wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Broadhead wrote:Rebel Pin Up hairdressers

Is that what Gary's place is called?

Tell me it isn't.

I'm detecting a theme that you are a bit worried about the north getting fancy airs

I am. Well spotted.

In what way?

I always think (for me) the defining thing Leeds does better than anywhere else is ignore trends. That is what Leeds does. Did.

Now I think the students are more mixed with locals which is a real shame. We used to have the students nicely boxed off living in terror haha.

I dunno I could always rely on Leeds not to have Cocoon, Dc10, Hot Creations etc etc . Everywhere would be at it but not Leeds. This may be old news to some of you but to me it all seems to have happened really quickly. A real about-turn of quality.

You'd get people performing in Leeds and they would nearly always do extra well and also be blown away by our crowds. Cos it was different.

But once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!) and to be brutally honest since Basics lost it's dominance it's not the town I remember. It's like a lot of other towns. I hate that. Because I love Leeds. The thing I loved most of all was it's fuck-off-ness.

I could be dead wrong. It just seems to be importing everything when in the past it used to make it's own.

Don't get the hump again Joe I'm not talking about you it's a very general feeling I've been getting for about 4 or 5 years now.

No I agree Tim. The truth is its been like that for a while now.

My theory is most of 'the old guard' as it were have finally grown up and don't go out as much anymore so there isn't enough people to sustain a night where you can put on interesting, original line ups, and so whats happening is promoters are not taking risks and putting on nights that guarantee bums on seats.

Any night that does try and put on something a bit more interesting only pulls something like 150-200 punters, which is a real shame.

5 or 6 years ago, most students were either into funky house or were indie kids but now 90% of them are all into Hot Creations, Soul Clap, Visonquest, Crosstown Rebels etc. Now some might argue that's a good thing that more young 'uns are getting into underground house or whatever, but as you say Tim its wiped out that 'us & them' scenario which made Leeds unique and the whole scene had become saturated, stale and fucking boring

Maybe this is one reason I don't go out anywhere now.

Well said Joe.

SON, the reason you dont go anywhere now is because you get lost.

Finding this place would totally bamboozle him, he would have no chance even with sat nav, a map and a sherpa.

Joe wrote:Its a cash only bar at the venue on Friday peeps

Joe wrote:Its a cash only bar at the venue on Friday peeps

Fandango Widewheels wrote:That's it then. 6:30pm Duck and Drake.

Broadhead wrote:

Fandango Widewheels wrote:I'll be in Leeds from about 5:30. The CMD is off shopping so I can come out about 6

I can just see you, slipping the CMD £100....."you go get yourself something nice love"......and rushing off for a pint. The doting husband

T.B wrote:

Broadhead wrote:

Fandango Widewheels wrote:I'll be in Leeds from about 5:30. The CMD is off shopping so I can come out about 6

I can just see you, slipping the CMD £100....."you go get yourself something nice love"......and rushing off for a pint. The doting husband

More like 1000 if she's any sense.

Bishop wrote:

T.B wrote:

Broadhead wrote:

Fandango Widewheels wrote:I'll be in Leeds from about 5:30. The CMD is off shopping so I can come out about 6

I can just see you, slipping the CMD £100....."you go get yourself something nice love"......and rushing off for a pint. The doting husband

More like 1000 if she's any sense.

You cannot spend £1000 up north.

Joe wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Jonny Boy wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

T.B wrote:

Sherrers wrote:

Broadhead wrote:Rebel Pin Up hairdressers

Is that what Gary's place is called?

Tell me it isn't.

I'm detecting a theme that you are a bit worried about the north getting fancy airs

I am. Well spotted.

In what way?

I always think (for me) the defining thing Leeds does better than anywhere else is ignore trends. That is what Leeds does. Did.

Now I think the students are more mixed with locals which is a real shame. We used to have the students nicely boxed off living in terror haha.

I dunno I could always rely on Leeds not to have Cocoon, Dc10, Hot Creations etc etc . Everywhere would be at it but not Leeds. This may be old news to some of you but to me it all seems to have happened really quickly. A real about-turn of quality.

You'd get people performing in Leeds and they would nearly always do extra well and also be blown away by our crowds. Cos it was different.

But once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!) and to be brutally honest since Basics lost it's dominance it's not the town I remember. It's like a lot of other towns. I hate that. Because I love Leeds. The thing I loved most of all was it's fuck-off-ness.

I could be dead wrong. It just seems to be importing everything when in the past it used to make it's own.

Don't get the hump again Joe I'm not talking about you it's a very general feeling I've been getting for about 4 or 5 years now.

No I agree Tim. The truth is its been like that for a while now.

My theory is most of 'the old guard' as it were have finally grown up and don't go out as much anymore so there isn't enough people to sustain a night where you can put on interesting, original line ups, and so whats happening is promoters are not taking risks and putting on nights that guarantee bums on seats.

Any night that does try and put on something a bit more interesting only pulls something like 150-200 punters, which is a real shame.

5 or 6 years ago, most students were either into funky house or were indie kids but now 90% of them are all into Hot Creations, Soul Clap, Visonquest, Crosstown Rebels etc. Now some might argue that's a good thing that more young 'uns are getting into underground house or whatever, but as you say Tim its wiped out that 'us & them' scenario which made Leeds unique and the whole scene had become saturated, stale and fucking boring

wookie wrote:its the lack of money/people who go out, there's an ever decresing pool of people spending money on going out, less people equals promoters going for big names to get people through the door.

Plus with alot of nights now going once a month etc, they don't have to worry about cultivating a crowd, getting regulars going every week, as long as they fill out their night once a month they're happy.

peenieman wrote:

wookie wrote:its the lack of money/people who go out, there's an ever decresing pool of people spending money on going out, less people equals promoters going for big names to get people through the door.

Plus with alot of nights now going once a month etc, they don't have to worry about cultivating a crowd, getting regulars going every week, as long as they fill out their night once a month they're happy.

I don't know our scene definitely got lazy but it was before the crash. If anything the bad economy here has seen our own home grown crops push through a wee bit.

Sherrers wrote:once we started to get places like Shopkeepers (cheers Jon!)

T.B wrote:

Bishop wrote:

T.B wrote:

Broadhead wrote:

Fandango Widewheels wrote:I'll be in Leeds from about 5:30. The CMD is off shopping so I can come out about 6

I can just see you, slipping the CMD £100....."you go get yourself something nice love"......and rushing off for a pint. The doting husband

More like 1000 if she's any sense.

You cannot spend £1000 up north.

I could spend it on Mars dear.

Broadhead wrote:

T.B wrote:

Bishop wrote:

T.B wrote:

Broadhead wrote:

Fandango Widewheels wrote:I'll be in Leeds from about 5:30. The CMD is off shopping so I can come out about 6

I can just see you, slipping the CMD £100....."you go get yourself something nice love"......and rushing off for a pint. The doting husband

More like 1000 if she's any sense.

You cannot spend £1000 up north.

I could spend it on Mars dear.

Tickled me did that.